http://bibleforums.org/forum/ A free online Christian Community. Active, moderated Christian Message Board. en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:52:02 GMT vBulletin 60 http://bibleforums.org/forum/images/misc/rss.jpg http://bibleforums.org/forum/ http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197923&goto=newpost Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:39:03 GMT *Does *Bible teach us to retreat from life?* * *1 Corinthians 7*: 8.Now to the *_unmarried_ and the widows* I say: _*It is good for them to stay unmarried*_, as I am. 9.But_* if they cannot control themselves, they should marry*_*, for it is... Does Bible teach us to retreat from life?

1 Corinthians 7:

8.Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. 9.But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

I am amazed! I think these two verses teach us to retreat from life.So if we can control our desire, then should not we marry?Is it good not to marry if we can control ourselves? BTW, why should we control desire?is it too bad?Ok for some times forget about desire( peoples who really want to retreat from life),but atleast we should live in reality.Procreation is impossible without intercourse, so why it is better for us to stay unmarried?Is it not unrealistic teaching?The verses are clear, so no question of misunderstanding!So I hope this problem can be solved by some rational discussion. Thanks and God bless.

PS. I hope it is not a topic that was discussed here already.But if it is an old subject that was discussed already then please someone show me that.
]]> Bible Chat starlight777 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197923 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197922&goto=newpost Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:48:48 GMT I posted here few moths ago about my emotionally abusive relationship. Got out of it and have not seen my boyfriend for about 3 months although we were a bit in contact during the time. The current problem is that I am still trapped. I keep thinking... I posted here few moths ago about my emotionally abusive relationship. Got out of it and have not seen my boyfriend for about 3 months although we were a bit in contact during the time. The current problem is that I am still trapped. I keep thinking of him and almost every time I stop doing things, I tend to break down with tears in my eyes. I keep thinking he was perfect for me except the emotional abuse. I keep thinking of ways going back and fixing the relationship although we tried long enough. It is a terrible pain that does not want to leave my heart. Most of the time I think I have done the right decision by leaving him, but any time I look at another guy, that I may even like a bit, I end up thinking, yes, nice...but it is not him. Others are just people, but he is/was partner. I am tired of looking for someone and do not want to start again.
I know I am not the only one going through this and I am afraid the only thing I can do is to pray and wait until time heals my wounds. It is just that my heart refuses to cooperate with my brain at all. And even my brain does not know where to go sometimes. I am tempted to contact him and try to fight for and equal position by his side again, although I know, it was impossible.
So, when is it going to end? ]]> Counseling Requests Marriana http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197922 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197919&goto=newpost Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:12:29 GMT Does anyone have favorite websites which contain loads of online bible study resources such as Blueletterbible.org? Does anyone have favorite websites which contain loads of online bible study resources such as Blueletterbible.org? ]]> Bible Chat crossnote http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197919 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197917&goto=newpost Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:01:59 GMT Someone asked me this question the other day and I don't know the answer. I know this was discussed in another thread, but wanted to review it here. He asked how or where did Cain find his wife. Wouldn't his wife had to have been a sister, niece or cousin. For some reason when he asked me this I thought Cain had to go into another land to find a wife, but I believe that is someone else later on in the book of Genesis that did that. If I'm correct on that can you tell me who that person was and where he went to find a wife. ]]> Bible Chat *Living~By~Faith* http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197917 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197912&goto=newpost Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:16:22 GMT Remember when the tribes of Israel crossed the Jordan River, they stopped and build a monument, to remember what the Lord had done for them? I don't want to look back bitterly at trials, but to praise God for what he has done for me.

A year ago, my young adult daughter and son were both in rebellion. My husband was in the hospital with yet another infection in his leg that the doctors couldn't seem to diagnose or make go away. They were suggesting lymphoma. A friend who was sick with cancer, just getting the news that her cancer went to her bone, got a collection together and brought us groceries, concerned that my husband wasn't getting paid for the time he was in the hospital. We were so oppressed. We felt we had done what we knew how to do to raise our children in church and to live right before the Lord, yet we were being so battled.


One year later... My daughter is back in church, married and her new husband has been absolutely wonderful for my daughter and granddaughter. When she got him, I got my daughter back. The rebellion was over. She has a long way to go, but the Lord is helping her. When my son-in-law came into our lives, I had been praying about it, because it was sudden. I feel that the Lord told me to just be his friend. We have. My son isn't back yet, but our relationship is being restored and we believe he will be back in church soon. The doctors ruled out lymphoma, saying it was a staph infection in the tissues of his leg, but not MRSA. He was on antibiotics for almost one year. Now he's off the antibiotic and his leg appears to be fine. Our friend went on to be with the Lord. We accepted that as God's will, I can't tell you the growth in me, since this friend was first diagnosed with cancer. The Lord has been so good to me, helping me. I really am not the same person I was a year ago, and oppressed definitely is not what I am now.

I should also add that we have grown from our trials. The very trials that could have destroyed us, were used for our good. Not bragging, but saying Thank you Jesus. Nothing we did, but trusting the Lord. God is faithful. His love will never fail.

Looking forward to more good news - Where has the Lord brought you from in the past year? ]]> Christian Fellowship Twin2 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197912 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197905&goto=newpost Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:17:27 GMT Gen 3:22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like *one of us in knowing good and evil*. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever—” Does anyone know of any rabbinical commentary on... Gen 3:22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever—”

Does anyone know of any rabbinical commentary on "one of us" here?

Thanks ]]> Bible Chat Steven3 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197905 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197903&goto=newpost Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:42:59 GMT Hi everyone, I'm new here..I will try to make this as short as possible. My husband and I have known each other for over 8 years, we've been together for the last 3 - just got married at the end of July. Over the years he has made some poor choices, etc, hadn't been able to hold a job (I supported him wholly for over a year - myself working 2 jobs). He has now had a steady job since February. I actually lost my teaching position due to seniority (only two years experience) this past June, so I am desperately seeking a job, while working part-time as a server. A job my husband does not like me to do because I'm gone at night (until 11pm at the latest). Between my unemployment money and my serving job, I make as much as he does per month.

About a month and a half ago, my husband suggested we find a church to go to. I was for it, I was raised in a baptist church, and was happy he wanted to go. We started going, and I felt renewed in my faith, something which seemed to irritate my husband. Lately he's been spending money left and right (golf clubs, golfing, xbox, fast food, cigarettes, beer) while we have NOTHING saved and are behind on our bills. We have 1 car and 1 motorcycle - I can't drive a motorcycle, and he insists on taking the car to work everyday (for no reason), but yet ridicules me for not going OUT to job hunt. I do apply to jobs online every single day and have had interviews, but didn't get the positions due to only having 2 years teaching experience.

My husband agreed to stop smoking so we could save some money - that lasted about 4 days, and he went right back to it. Taking money I made serving and buying cigarettes and beer then getting upset when I asked where the money was. At church he acts like he is this sweet, humble, caring man...but at home if he doesn't get what he wants immediately he will throw things, toss things out of drawers, anything to make matters much worse. We can't even tithe this week because he bought a set of golf clubs! :(

I keep the house "guest ready" at all times, he never has to worry about a THING when he comes home, I try very hard to live like a christian, but he makes fun of me when I pray or tries to interrupt when I read the bible.

Tonight he said he could "get along just fine" without me and he would have money for his cigarettes and beer and wouldn't have to "sacrifice" to pay the bills..he wrecks things in the house (throws things - glasses, remotes, knocks over bookcases) and tonight he slammed the car door so hard the window wouldn't roll up..When I try to talk to him about anything he to shut up and curses or tells me he can't "put up with this anymore" and calls me names. At one time I was very upset, went into the other room and started reading the bible, he came in and threw a paper at me and said "You better read this instead" and it was about divorce (he had printed it off)..I've supported him through SO much, I've always had to be the leader, always the voice of reason, always the one who did the right thing...but he treats me like I'm worthless and mocks my faith! Then if I go into another room he will follow me and continue to curse at me and keep saying it over and over..

We're originally from Michigan, but live in Florida, and we have NO family here. I feel completely alone in wanting this marriage to succeeded and for us to have a christian household..we've only been married for 4 months :(When I try to hug or kiss him he usually brushes me off, and just really thinks its hilarious to constantly put me down..

What can I do?? I keep praying, I'm planning on fasting, I keep reading my bible..and I know he is supposed to be the "king" of the house..it was his idea to go to church, but he seems to only want to 'look good' rather than do good.. ]]> Women at the well Keri82 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197903 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197902&goto=newpost Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:57:06 GMT Is the Bible the only source of objective truth? Is the Bible the only source of objective truth? ]]> Christian Fellowship HisLeast http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197902 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197900&goto=newpost Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:32:02 GMT Hi I havent been on here in awhile,...but ive been dealing with some things regarding my personal life. while ive been have anxiety and its been really bothering the way I breathe i know i should live a more active life im not overweight but my... Hi I havent been on here in awhile,...but ive been dealing with some things regarding my personal life. while ive been have anxiety and its been really bothering the way I breathe i know i should live a more active life im not overweight but my lifestyle isnt that active Im outta work and im praying god sends me a job before christmas..and i just need prayer to help me through these troubling times but i know it will get better. i just want to be Happy and i also pray god directs me and my Family to a good church home that we will stick with.~god bless~:D ]]> Prayer Jamesmason1984 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197900 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197899&goto=newpost Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:31:49 GMT I would like to ask my brothers and sisters in Christ to please pray for my marriage. My wife and I are saved and we have been married for 7 years. My wife is struggling with anger towards God and towards me. She struggled with a very sick father... I would like to ask my brothers and sisters in Christ to please pray for my marriage. My wife and I are saved and we have been married for 7 years. My wife is struggling with anger towards God and towards me. She struggled with a very sick father for many years and he passed away a year and a half ago. My wife is having a hard time coping and with her identity now that dad is gone. (she had a strong relationship with her dad and listened to his council on almost everything) We also have issues in our marriage that we both struggle with, like me being able to see her heart and listen to her and her being able to submit and let me lead. In the past couple of months she has been pulling further from God and from me. In the past month she has been going for Christian counseling for herself. I have been wanting to do marriage counseling but she says that she doesn't love me anymore and sees no need. She has asked me for a divorce. Her family can't believe what is going on and they are trying to help us but she's got her mind made up. Please pray for our marriage. I love her more than anything next to God. ]]> Prayer savedandsealed http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197899 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197898&goto=newpost Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:30:13 GMT In about a half an hour, a new documentary is airing on National Geographic called "The First Jesus?" I saw the commercial for it and it appears to be about a tablet found that claims itself to be from the angel Gabriel and it says a lot of details about Jesus' resurrection, like "in three days, live" or something. And apparently it's from before Jesus was born.

Has anyone heard of this tablet or know anything about it?

P.S. I'm not watching the documentary because I know that NatGeo is always propagating against Christianity, so I can't really believe a word they say about it. ]]> Apologetics and Evangelism GreekAsianPanda http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197898 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197895&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:49:29 GMT Mat 22:1 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said, Mat 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, Mat 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to... Mat 22:1 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,
Mat 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
Mat 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
Mat 22:4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
Mat 22:5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
Mat 22:6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
Mat 22:7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
Mat 22:8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
Mat 22:9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
Mat 22:10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
Mat 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
Mat 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
Mat 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen. (ASV)
... This is one those ignored passages of scripture that because I have not ignored it I often finds the hot breath of the hounds on the nape of my neck. My basic position is arrived at due to the circumstance, found in Chapt. 21 and the fact that Jesus was telling this as a parable used to describe the Wedding of the Church, the Bride, to the Groom in Heaven.
... I get into so much trouble over this passage because I use it to define the difference between what I term to be a Christian and a saved man. You see, I make the faithful follower of Jesus to be the Bride and call them the Christians of this world. Now, based on Rom. 10:9,10 if a man calls out to God and believes that He will save him, He will.
... But Satan and his minions have their way and destroy his testimony and he becomes one of the Liberal Christians of this world and does not follow God in the strict manor. I, believing in eternal salvation place that person in the group of having their fire insurance. They are the guests at the wedding feast. They are, IMOP, saved but they did not get the best part either.
]]> Bible Chat th1bill http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197895 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197882&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:17:43 GMT Nate ended up at the clinic early this afternoon..ran head first into another boy's head and got a deep cut right on his eyebrow during gym at school. Split it in half too...ew and ow. He ended up with six stitches...the cut two inches across and down to the bone. ow. Currently he is home sitting with an ice pack on it again as it started swelling up again. poor kid.

Can you please pray there is no concussion (doctor doesn't think so even though he was dizzy after first being hit) and there are no problems with this healing up quickly. We are suppose to go out of town tomorrow for a family thing..I am unsure if we should now or not though. Just going to see how he does.

God bless ]]> Prayer moonglow http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197882 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197872&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:38:23 GMT I have a roast cooking in the crockpot for some company, but they called a few minutes ago and said they cant make it. There is another couple coming though, so I'm still having company. But I'm sure there will be quiet a bit left over because it's a kinda big roast. Seven people were coming, now there will only be four with one of them being a child.

How many days in the refrigerator will a pork roast last? I thought about taking the leftovers to church Monday or Tuesday of next week. I may even fix it into bbq and take it that way. But is it still going to be as good on Tuesday as it is today? ]]> Christian Fellowship *Living~By~Faith* http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197872 http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197870&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:07:07 GMT :bible:Luke 23:33, “And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified Him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left” __________ Avis B. Christiansen was born Oct 11, 1895 in Chicago,... :bible:Luke 23:33, “And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified Him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left”
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Avis B. Christiansen was born Oct 11, 1895 in Chicago, Illinois and died in Chicago on Jan 14, 1985. The legendary pastor and author H. A. Ironside wrote this concerning Avis, “She is the gifted author of many of our sweetest gospel songs. A modest, retiring person whom few get to know beyond the circle of her immediate family and friends. With a very keen apprehension of spiritual realities, and a clear understanding of the great truths revealed in the Word of God, her hymns and poems are eminently Scriptural and very soul-uplifting. One day while listening to a sermon on the subject of Christ's atonement entitled "Blessed Redeemer", Mr. Harry Dixon Loes was inspired to compose this tune. He then sent the melody with the suggested title to Mrs. Christiansen, a friend for many years, asking her to write the text. The completed hymn first appeared in the hymnal Songs of Redemption in 1920. Mrs. Avis Christiansen is to be ranked as one of the important gospel hymn writers of the 20th century. She has written hundreds of gospel hymn texts as well as several volumes of published poems. Throughout her long lifetime of 90 years, Mrs. Christiansen collaborated with many well-known gospel musicians to contribute several other choice hymns to our hymnals, including "Blessed Calvary"; "I Know I'll See Jesus Someday" and the below hymn entitled “Blessed Redeemer”, which is another one of my favorites. I sincerely trust you will enjoy this as much as I do!

Up Calvary’s mountain, one dreadful morn,
Walked Christ my Savior, weary and worn;
Facing for sinners death on the cross,
That He might save them from endless loss.

“Father forgive them!” thus did He pray,
E’en while His lifeblood flowed fast away;
Praying for sinners while in such woe
No one but Jesus ever loved so.

O how I love Him, Savior and Friend,
How can my praises ever find end!
Through years unnumbered on heaven’s shore,
My tongue shall praise Him forevermore.

CHORUS:

Blessed Redeemer! Precious Redeemer!
Seems I now see Him on Calvary’s tree;
Wounded and bleeding, for sinners pleading,
Blind and unheeding—dying for me!
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Further Thoughts:

When the Lamb of God offered Himself up as the sacrifice for our sin that Passover long ago, the Roman cross, intended to be an instrument of cruel death, instead became a symbol of new life and hope for the human race. God loved and valued each of us so highly that He was willing to pay the greatest price imaginable for our salvation. I will close with the following written by an unknown author:

A Hill with Three Crosses
One cross where a thief died IN SIN
One cross where a thief died TO SIN
A center cross where the Redeemer died FOR SIN ]]> Comfort and encouragement Shadrach http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=197870